Why do these black foundations smell bad?

Started by FatherMichael, February 29, 2020, 09:02:54 PM

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FatherMichael

41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

van from Arkansas

Smells like bees wax to me.  I just opened a box of 100 black foundation 9 1/8 after I read your post, no bad smell to me.  My frames are from mann lake.
Van
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Ben Framed

Quote from: FatherMichael on February 29, 2020, 09:02:54 PM
P-U, are these things made of asphalt?

Where did you purchase theses foundations? What brand did you buy?

FatherMichael

Quote from: Ben Framed on March 02, 2020, 10:13:43 AM
Quote from: FatherMichael on February 29, 2020, 09:02:54 PM
P-U, are these things made of asphalt?

Where did you purchase theses foundations? What brand did you buy?

They came with a deep box and frames from Busy Bees and More Amish Made ... Sold by Galena Farms.

Saved $10!  LOL
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Ben Framed

The Amish people, as far as I know, are known for craftsmanship of making and building top quality products. I did not know why your frames which smell like asphalt. Seems a mystery?

FatherMichael

Quote from: Ben Framed on March 02, 2020, 07:47:57 PM
The Amish people, as far as I know, are known for craftsmanship of making and building top quality products. I did not know why your frames which smell like asphalt. Seems a mystery?

Yes, the woodenware was excellent.

Need to apply beeswax to the foundations.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Ben Framed

(Need to apply beeswax to the foundations.)


Yes Sir, Perhaps beeswax will seal in the asphalt smell. I am assuming these foundations are plastic. You may have already heard of what I am about to suggest.  There is a fellow in Florida that melts his old combs in a stainless steel vat each season. He saves this for dipping his plastic foundation in for coating. This practice makes a quick, effective and efficient way to coat his plastic foundation. I have not tried this but it certainly sounds promising. Being you are just getting things into gear you may not have the wax resources to accomplish this, but in the future, this may be worth looking into. I hope this helps you.

Phillip Hall

FatherMichael

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Quote from: Ben Framed on March 02, 2020, 09:06:45 PM
(Need to apply beeswax to the foundations.)


Yes Sir, Perhaps beeswax will seal in the asphalt smell. I am assuming these foundations are plastic. You may have already heard of what I am about to suggest.  There is a fellow in Florida that melts his old combs in a stainless steel vat each season. He saves this for dipping his plastic foundation in for coating. This practice makes a quick, effective and efficient way to coat his plastic foundation. I have not tried this but it certainly sounds promising. Being you are just getting things into gear you may not have the wax resources to accomplish this, but in the future, this may be worth looking into. I hope this helps you.

Phillip Hall

Thanks, Phillip.

Don't have enough wax for dipping but I painted some on them this morning.  It didn't help.

Will spend time at the dumpster to get these noxious things out of my life!  LOL
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

Kathyp


QuoteWill spend time at the dumpster to get these noxious things out of my life!  LOL

I'd contact the company and see what they say before you toss them.  Also, leaving them outside for a few days might help cure them.  Probably have to remove the wax you put on first...and if you use the blowdryer maybe don't tell your wife about it   :grin:
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FatherMichael

Quote from: kathyp on March 03, 2020, 02:43:49 PM

QuoteWill spend time at the dumpster to get these noxious things out of my life!  LOL

I'd contact the company and see what they say before you toss them.  Also, leaving them outside for a few days might help cure them.  Probably have to remove the wax you put on first...and if you use the blowdryer maybe don't tell your wife about it   :grin:

Thanks, Kathy.  Already tossed them.  The smell was really bad.  They had been outside for several days already.

Ordered replacements from Acorn.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

FatherMichael

Foundations from Acorn came today and I installed them.  They seem stiffer, coated much better, and smelled sweet like real beeswax.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

jtcmedic

I really like the acorn, my splits took to them very quickly almost two frames in a 3 days. I hope they work for you.

Ben Framed

#12
"I really like the acorn, my splits took to them very quickly almost two frames in a 3 days. I hope they work for you."

I have been advised by a beekeeper whom I totally trust to invest in Acorn also. I should have already ordered and need to get on it. I probably will stick with foundationless for my brood but Acron for the honey.
"decisions"  lol

Phillip

FatherMichael

Quote from: jtcmedic on March 04, 2020, 08:25:48 PM
I really like the acorn, my splits took to them very quickly almost two frames in a 3 days. I hope they work for you.

Thanks, jtc.

If I were a bee I'd like them.  ;-)
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.

MikeyN.C.

Father, how did you have frames stored ? Over winter

jtcmedic

Quote from: Ben Framed on March 04, 2020, 08:30:30 PM
I really like the acorn, my splits took to them very quickly almost two frames in a 3 days. I hope they work for you."

I have been advised by a beekeeper whom I totally trust to invest in Acorn also. I should have already ordered and need to get on it. I probably will stick with foundationless for my brood but Acron for the honey.
"decisions"  lol

Phillip
On my cut outs I feel foundationless I do mark them on top of frame so I don?t forget or if my wife is in the hives

FatherMichael

Quote from: MikeyN.C. on March 04, 2020, 09:00:59 PM
Father, how did you have frames stored ? Over winter

Had them since February 21 of this year.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

43 And he took it, and did eat before them.