Adding a brood chamber UNDER the existing brood box

[TheHoneyPump]

Aaaah OK.  Understood.  It is finished then.
   (..... PS: an 8F box is a nuc, in my world  ;) )


Hey Gardener,
Regarding you brood question: 
.........I?d like to hear 2 cents from the professionals on this: Which position to place a frame of capped brood robbed from another hive, to boost a wimpy brood nest in one hive body? Center? Just at the edge?

I no pro but Hope this helps:
Put the capped brood right beside, right next to and against the last frame of open brood.  Do no separate existing open brood as it needs to be tended the most by the nurse bees and kept warmest.  Capped brood needs no further attention and generates a bit of its own heat but not enough on its own..  Before you add any brood first make sure there are enough bees in the box to cover it all.  If there are not enough bees to cover what they have AND the frame being added then nothing is gained.  The added brood will chill and die.  It takes 3 frames of bees to look after one big frame of brood. Try to keep that bees to brood ratio in balance as you add brood frames to one hive or take away bees from another.

[Ben Framed]

Aaaah OK. lol I am glad to get that behind and finished. ;))
PS I Understand in your world it is considered a nuc and rightly so. In my world I also use 10 deeps as you. Some here in beemaster world, use 8 frame boxes as their hive. Some even 8 frame medium. I was speaking in terms of many here in the beemaster world. lol ;))

Thanks HP,
 
Phillip Hall

[cao]

Agree with HP about the brood placement.  Also about checkerboarding(or whatever you want to call it) the brood chamber in general.  I try to leave the core of the brood chamber alone.  Ultimately it depends on what you are wanting your bees to do.  FBM's goal is to raise bees and queens.  He cares very little about honey production.  HP is wanting a strong colony to bring in the most honey possible.  The average hobbyist is somewhere in between.

[Bob Wilson]

At the risk of belaboring this subject, in my horizontal hive, I am shifting the resources backwards one frame space. as well as the first frame of brood that I come to, and inserting an empty foundationless frame between that edge brood frame and the rest of the brood nest. I am doing this to use brood frames as a guide for foundationless frames. Am I breaking up, and damaging the brood nest? Exactly how many frames can I insert? The comments here are that I am "checkerboarding" the brood nest, which is bad, but I have been told it is OK to insert empties in the nest if it is warm.

[cao]

Just sticking one frame at the edge of the brood nest is not disrupting the brood nest.  The core of the brood nest is what you want to keep together.  You could add a frame on each edge of the brood nest without much issue.  When you split the core up in multiple pieces, it takes a lot for the bees to get thing back together.  It also makes it harder for the queen to move from frame to frame to lay eggs.

[Bob Wilson]

Got it. Thanks Cao.

[Acebird]

but I have been told it is OK to insert empties in the nest if it is warm.

And a full blown hive that lacks no resources.