It is interesting!!!

ApisNovus · February 05, 2008, 01:54:39 PM

Did you know that a working bee, when she is leaving hive, cares a negative electrical charge. During the flight she creat around her body electro-magnetic field and the (-) charge is changing to positive (+), about 1.5 -1.8 V, especially in sunny day. According to Dr. Erickson, the diference between negative charge of polen and bees (like magnet) help them to collect polen from flower. Also this electrical charge is serving as information about distance when bees return to their hive.

bassman1977 · February 05, 2008, 02:33:49 PM

:shock: WOAH! :shock:

Shizzell · February 05, 2008, 02:59:46 PM

Awesome...I finally have a chance to continue communicating on here again!! Hi again everyone!

I don't think we'll ever stop learning about bees.

Jake

Understudy · February 05, 2008, 03:37:31 PM

As a personal skeptic. I tend to be very careful before I buy into comments like the OP placed. However this one may have some validity. But not quite in the way it seems. A phone call to Dr. Eric H. Erickson has been made to help shed some light.

Eric H. Erickson is at the USDA-ARS Carl Hayden Bee Research Laboratory, 2000 E. Allen Rd., Tucson, AZ 85719; phone (520) 670-6481, fax (520) 670-6493; email [email protected].

The report he wrote that references this is:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112128404/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

However rather than paying 29.95 I think Iwill ask for a copy and have him answer a few questions.

Sincerely,
Brendhan

ApisNovus · February 05, 2008, 05:24:18 PM

Did you know that the most petals of flowers have lines, dots, (kind of patterns) thatserve as points of orientations for bees when they "hunting"nectar? :shock:

JP · February 05, 2008, 05:59:26 PM

Yes bees see ultra violet colors and markings that we don't see. Check this out: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=473897

......JP

Understudy · February 05, 2008, 06:00:28 PM

Quote from: ApisNovus on February 05, 2008, 05:24:18 PM
Did you know that the most petals of flowers have lines, dots, (kind of patterns) thatserve as points of orientations for bees when they "hunting"nectar? :shock:

That experiment was tested with bumblebees but I am willing to take a leap of faith for the honeybees.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/1402579h6kk47t12/

Sincerely,
Brendhan

Cindi · February 05, 2008, 06:33:46 PM

Quote from: Understudy on February 05, 2008, 03:37:31 PM
As a personal skeptic. I tend to be very careful before I buy into comments like the OP placed. However this one may have some validity. But not quite in the way it seems. A phone call to Dr. Eric H. Erickson has been made to help shed some light.

Eric H. Erickson is at the USDA-ARS Carl Hayden Bee Research Laboratory, 2000 E. Allen Rd., Tucson, AZ 85719; phone (520) 670-6481, fax (520) 670-6493; email [email protected].

The report he wrote that references this is:
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/112128404/ABSTRACT?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0

However rather than paying 29.95 I think Iwill ask for a copy and have him answer a few questions.

Sincerely,
Brendhan

Rats!!! Tried to access the site, but couldn't get there because I wouldn't allow it to give me a cookie. I really don't like cookies anyways, I would much rather have a Skor chocolate bar, smiling. Have a wonderful, best of this day. Cindi

Cindi · February 05, 2008, 06:34:59 PM

Learning trivia about bees and such is a very interesting thing, good sites. Have a wonderful, greatest of day. Cind

BeeHopper · February 05, 2008, 08:04:53 PM

It would be nice to see the honeybee build up enough of a static charge to zap the darn mites into oblivion :evil:

ApisNovus · February 05, 2008, 09:12:34 PM

Somethying else... very often beautifully colored (red-brown) wasps like sucking nectars from killed bees. They feed their larvaes with chewed honey-caring bees. Keep wasps away from your hives . :shock:

Brian D. Bray · February 06, 2008, 06:51:08 PM

Quote from: ApisNovus on February 05, 2008, 09:12:34 PM
Somethying else... very often beautifully colored (red-brown) wasps like sucking nectars from killed bees. They feed their larvaes with chewed honey-caring bees. Keep wasps away from your hives . :shock:

Is that Trivia or a Fascinating Fact? Trivia clutters the mind, Fascinating Facts are educational.

ApisNovus · February 06, 2008, 10:27:37 PM

This I found on the russian website and I am wondering if anyone ever tried this method.
Pinetree needle powder

Collect fresh green needles from pinetree (cedar is the best) and dry in the oven with temperature 50-60 deg. C (122 - 140 deg F). After that the green (!!!) pinetree leaves (needle) have to be hard and dry. After that, leaves has to be grinde with meatgrinder a few times until yolu get a powder (!!!!) (I think that cofeegrinder would work much better - ApisNovus)
Store this powder in a covered glass jar.
The powder is good agains varoa. Treat hives in early spring during 7-10 days. generosely cover bees with this powder. Motes and tick cant styand smell of pinetree and start moving. Their sucktion cups will be covered with pwder so they will fell down and die.

The advantage of this powder is that it is natural and harmless. You can uncrease effectiveness of this method if you place a small piece of pinetree sap on the top of frames.

guys, what do you think about this method?

rdy-b · February 06, 2008, 11:09:13 PM

that will dry out and kill any uncapped brood-stick with powdered sugar-RDY-B

Brian D. Bray · February 06, 2008, 11:34:43 PM

Sooo!! :shock: You're saying that granulated cedar will do for varroa what it does for moths? Cure mites and wax moths with one application? Sounds too good to be credible.

ApisNovus · February 07, 2008, 05:03:42 AM

itis just translating from russian article and I found it interesting

Michael Bush · February 07, 2008, 08:03:12 AM

The research would say any fine powder will dislodge mites. Flour, powdered sugar... so why not powdered pine needles?

Scadsobees · February 07, 2008, 09:24:56 AM

Quote from: ApisNovus on February 06, 2008, 10:27:37 PM
This I found on the russian website and I am wondering if anyone ever tried this method.
Pinetree needle powder
...

Any powder will dry out an kill brood, including sugar or starch. We really rely on the horizonal cells to keep too much from getting in there.

The pine powder probably works the same way as sugar...to dislodge the mites and to cause grooming.

The advantage of sugar is that I would eat a cup of sugar far quicker than a cup of pine needles. Natural doesn't mean edible or good. (I don't think pine needles are poison, but still....)

Rick

Cindi · February 07, 2008, 10:33:03 AM

Hmmm....I don't know about that one. That did not conjour up a good feeling. But maybe. I do know that when I have read about powdered sugar shakes that the reason for the POWDERED sugar is that the sugar is in such a fine state that it is light and floats, like dust. This is important, that it basically floats everywhere. And yes, the powdered sugar would get into uncapped larvae, but when the bees feed the larvae, it would not harm the bees, as it is an "edible" product and if it got on their tongue, it would not hurt them. I would wonder about the density of the pine needles being crushed to such a fine dust as icing sugar and the pine dusty stuff getting into the gut of the bee. Thoughts, have a wonderful and great day, love our lives we live. Cindi

Brian D. Bray · February 07, 2008, 09:28:20 PM

Quote from: Cindi on February 07, 2008, 10:33:03 AM
Hmmm....I don't know about that one. That did not conjour up a good feeling. But maybe. I do know that when I have read about powdered sugar shakes that the reason for the POWDERED sugar is that the sugar is in such a fine state that it is light and floats, like dust. This is important, that it basically floats everywhere. And yes, the powdered sugar would get into uncapped larvae, but when the bees feed the larvae, it would not harm the bees, as it is an "edible" product and if it got on their tongue, it would not hurt them. I would wonder about the density of the pine needles being crushed to such a fine dust as icing sugar and the pine dusty stuff getting into the gut of the bee. Thoughts, have a wonderful and great day, love our lives we live. Cindi

Hey, you want natural try shifted wood ash, it is light weight and consumable. All the powders I mentioned are fairly llight and "fluffy" and would not kill the bees. As to what MB says the pine needles would still have too much tar I think. And it must be remembered that any dry powder will absorb the moisture that it comes in contact with so is detrimental to open brood cells in that regard--even powdered sugar.

Powered sugar still is the product of choice as it, at least, can be converted to something useful to the bees instead of being an inert substance.