Is it normal for bees to put honey in the brood cells ?

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Joelel

August 04, 2009, 04:28:19 PM
Is it normal for bees to put honey in the brood cells that were brood cells or is something wrong ? There is plenty of room on other frames
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38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation

John Schwartz

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August 04, 2009, 04:31:26 PM
Quote from: Joelel on August 04, 2009, 04:28:19 PM
Is it normal for bees to put honey in the brood cells that were brood cells or is something wrong ? There is plenty of room on other frames

yes, those cells are interchangeable... they'll move stuff around, etc based on what the hive thinks current need is.
―John Schwartz, theBee.Farm

sc-bee

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August 06, 2009, 12:58:10 PM
Bees will move nectar into brood cells for different reasons depending on as stated above needs of the colony.

Ex.: a hive will backfill during swarm prep in order to stop the queen from laying to slim her up in preparation of her swarm flight.

a colony will backfill the brood area in preparation for winter needs as the queen cuts back on laying and the colony is cutting back on brood needs going into winter.

Two examples but I am not claiming them to be all inclusive :-D.
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Michael Bush

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August 08, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
When they backfill the brood nest it's so the queen will stop laying.  This can be in preparation for winter or for swarming.
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Joelel

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August 08, 2009, 11:32:53 PM
Quote from: Michael Bush on August 08, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
When they backfill the brood nest it's so the queen will stop laying.  This can be in preparation for winter or for swarming.

We are in south TX.,would they be back filling this early in the year for the winter ?
Acts2:37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation

sc-bee

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August 08, 2009, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: sc-bee on August 06, 2009, 12:58:10 PM
Bees will move nectar into brood cells for different reasons depending on as stated above needs of the colony.

Ex.: a hive will backfill during swarm prep in order to stop the queen from laying to slim her up in preparation of her swarm flight.

a colony will backfill the brood area in preparation for winter needs as the queen cuts back on laying and the colony is cutting back on brood needs going into winter.

Two examples but I am not claiming them to be all inclusive :-D.
Quote from: Michael Bush on August 08, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
When they backfill the brood nest it's so the queen will stop laying.  This can be in preparation for winter or for swarming.

:-D :) ;)
John 3:16

Joelel

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August 09, 2009, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: sc-bee on August 08, 2009, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: sc-bee on August 06, 2009, 12:58:10 PM
Bees will move nectar into brood cells for different reasons depending on as stated above needs of the colony.

Ex.: a hive will backfill during swarm prep in order to stop the queen from laying to slim her up in preparation of her swarm flight.

a colony will backfill the brood area in preparation for winter needs as the queen cuts back on laying and the colony is cutting back on brood needs going into winter.

Two examples but I am not claiming them to be all inclusive :-D.
Quote from: Michael Bush on August 08, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
When they backfill the brood nest it's so the queen will stop laying.  This can be in preparation for winter or for swarming.

:-D :) ;)

:piano: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:
Acts2:37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation

sc-bee

#7
August 10, 2009, 01:25:09 AM
 :piano: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:


Love that, it was great :-D ;)!
John 3:16

Jim134

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August 10, 2009, 07:19:25 AM
Quote from: Joelel on August 09, 2009, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: sc-bee on August 08, 2009, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: sc-bee on August 06, 2009, 12:58:10 PM
Bees will move nectar into brood cells for different reasons depending on as stated above needs of the colony.

Ex.: a hive will backfill during swarm prep in order to stop the queen from laying to slim her up in preparation of her swarm flight.

a colony will backfill the brood area in preparation for winter needs as the queen cuts back on laying and the colony is cutting back on brood needs going into winter.

Two examples but I am not claiming them to be all inclusive :-D.
Quote from: Michael Bush on August 08, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
When they backfill the brood nest it's so the queen will stop laying.  This can be in preparation for winter or for swarming.

:-D :) ;)

:piano: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:




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Joelel

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August 10, 2009, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: Jim 134 on August 10, 2009, 07:19:25 AM
Quote from: Joelel on August 09, 2009, 12:17:51 AM
Quote from: sc-bee on August 08, 2009, 11:55:58 PM
Quote from: sc-bee on August 06, 2009, 12:58:10 PM
Bees will move nectar into brood cells for different reasons depending on as stated above needs of the colony.

Ex.: a hive will backfill during swarm prep in order to stop the queen from laying to slim her up in preparation of her swarm flight.

a colony will backfill the brood area in preparation for winter needs as the queen cuts back on laying and the colony is cutting back on brood needs going into winter.

Two examples but I am not claiming them to be all inclusive :-D.
Quote from: Michael Bush on August 08, 2009, 09:24:06 PM
When they backfill the brood nest it's so the queen will stop laying.  This can be in preparation for winter or for swarming.

:-D :) ;)

:piano: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:




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Acts2:37: Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39: For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40: And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation

Brian D. Bray

#10
August 13, 2009, 01:12:52 AM
Another reason bees will backfill the brood area is due to a population decrease.  Bees will only build new comb under foot so if there isn't sufficient population to force  bees onto adjacent frames or supers the comb building stops and the bees begin to backfill until enough bees hatch to increase the population again.  This is the same type of behavior that occurs in the fall when the queen reduces laying and the hive backfills the brood chamber with stores for the winter.  I've found that this to be a repetative behavior with Russian bees as they self-impose several brood dearths during the season towards the end of a honey flow and then develop a lot of brood just prior to the next honey flow.
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