will queen return

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Patrick

August 05, 2009, 03:08:40 PM
Hi,
I found I had two queens, both laying in one of my hives.  With the help of an excluder I determined that one was a bit more productive. I removed the one queen and put her in a makeshift cage about 30 feet from her hive and went back to work.  After I was done and the hive all closed up I noticed the queen had escaped an flew off. What are the odds she finds her way back into here original hive?
Cheers,
Patrick

Kathyp

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August 05, 2009, 03:15:10 PM
she may.  i had one do that.  she made it as far as the landing board.  ?  why remove her?  there is nothing wrong with a 2 queen hive.  it's a good thing.
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Joelel

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August 05, 2009, 05:13:58 PM
Quote from: kathyp on August 05, 2009, 03:15:10 PM
she may.  i had one do that.  she made it as far as the landing board.  ?  why remove her?  there is nothing wrong with a 2 queen hive.  it's a good thing.

I didn't know there could be two queens in one hive ?
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Kathyp

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August 05, 2009, 05:30:40 PM
it is not as uncommon as you might think.  there was an article on this not so long ago.  maybe someone has a link and will post it.
The people the people are the rightful masters of both congresses and courts not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it.

Abraham  Lincoln
Speech in Kansas, December 1859

sc-bee

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August 05, 2009, 11:46:19 PM
Quote from: Patrick on August 05, 2009, 03:08:40 PM
Hi,
I removed the one queen and put her in a makeshift cage about 30 feet from her hive and went back to work.  After I was done and the hive all closed up I noticed the queen had escaped an flew off. What are the odds she finds her way back into here original hive?
Cheers,
Patrick

When installing a new queen using the release method, if she flies --- remain still and stay put. She will often orient on you and return to the hive. Not sure how much removing her caged 30 feet away will affect her orienting

I believe the figure quoted is usually 10% of the time. One of the queens is usually dispatched after a short period of time. It is said most beekeepers don't usually see a second queen when present because they quit looking after they find the first. If you find one queen when looking to split a hive and place a new caged queen --- this is one possibility of the new caged queen not being accepted.

I saw my first two queen hive after five years of beekeeping last week. Of course I was one of the keepers that quit looking after finding a queen. The guy I was with opened a hive that was once strong and right away said he thought it had swarmed. I believe it was three mediums. After looking for a short period he found the old marked queen. He said I believe this hive has two queens. Later he found what looked to be a virgin queen in the bottom medium. He figured they would soon dispatch the old queen so he caged her and took her to another yard.

If it had indeed swarmed I guess another virgin had left with the swarm???

John 3:16
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