Filling comb with 2:1 syrup :(

Started by challenger, November 22, 2009, 10:21:22 PM

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challenger

I am trying to fill some drawn comb with heavy syrup and cannot get the syrup to go into the cells. I've tired using a paint brush, spraying and all other methods I've read about but the surface tension of the syrup prevents the syrup from going into the cells and I am doing this with the syrup still warm.
Any help with this would be appreciated. I am hoping to put a full medium super of syrup on a couple of my hives that are a bit light.
Thanks-Howard
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Kathyp

you can do it with a good sprayer.  you need to use a stream, not a spray.  you can also use a small garden sprayer if you have lots of frames to do. 
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rdy-b


challenger

Yes- I came across this in my hunt for a method but if you notice it states he is using it for, "simulated nectar"  which is much less viscous. I am trying another sprayer today as well as adapting my honey pump with a small diameter hose (1/8") to see if either of these work. By the end of the week we will see cold of 35 degrees so I need to put this to bed b4 then
Thanks

Quote from: rdy-b on November 22, 2009, 10:45:42 PM
scroll down a bit -this is from walt wright- ;)  http://www.beesource.com/point-of-view/walt-wright/fall-feeding/
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Grid

I poured sugar crystals into the empty frames, and sprayed them lightly with water to hold the sugar in.  Took 8-9 kg (about 20 lbs) of sugar per deep.  Not sure if it will work or not, but I felt it was better than nothing, and easier than trying to get syrup into the cells.

Grid.

Finski

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If you pour syrup in obligue direction quite high, air pubbles will be hitted  out and you get full combs of syrup. Keep frame in the container like in the picture.

Children's bath pool is good when you fill combs. Train a while and it goes well.
Put the frames to bee box and let them leak extra syrup down. First put plastic on the bottom board and lead the syrup to container.

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Bee-Bop

I played with putting syrup into empty cells some years ago;

Granny Goodcook told me to get that messy,sticky ---- out of her kitchen, and get it cleaned up pronto !

Had to bee a less messier,easier, simpler method !

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weBEE Jammin

I do like Grid said, lay the frames sideways, fill them with granulated sugar, mist with water and place them in hives.

Finski

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Have you noticed that bees carry much sugar granules out. They keep them rubbish.

I use syrup filling in spring and in summer.

Sometimes if bees do not take winter syrup I pour syrup into combs and those combs in the box under wintering box. It is meshy job. It is easier to pour into feeder but....
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challenger

I made a honey pump with a gear pump and 1/3hp motor. I figured I would need one come spring time and I used this to fill the frames of comb. it moves a lot of syrup so I have to move the supply tube quickly and it is messy. I place the frames in a  large wash tub to fill them but all the cooking and transferring is a sticky problem. I am on the 300th gallon and the garage floor is messed up. I use an outdoor propane cooker to heat the water to disolve the 2:1 mix.
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Michael Bush

I find you need some force and you need it in drops.  A sprinkler from a long distance or a sprayer of some kind.  I never could get it go to in by simply dunking them.
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rdy-b

this is from another source-  
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Sprayer setup: I have a 30 gal bottling tank that I heat the syrup up to 150 deg. From there is a fill pipe that runs into a heavy steal tank that I can hook a air line to. This tank has a hose from a fruit spray that comes out the bottom. I set the frames in a large tub and spray them full one side at a time. It takes me 10 min. to fill the 5-6 frames needed. I do over 850 hive bodies a years for packages and splits. It takes me 4 weeks just to spray frames full of syrup. I use over a half a truck load of syrup just to spray frames. [/quote ]
                                                            

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USC Beeman in TN

Link to Walt Wright's instructions on filling Permacomb with sugar water/ sugar syrup.  I just recently used it to put some sugar syrup I made into over 20 frames of Permacomb.  (Purchased the Permacomb frames from Walt!)

http://www.beesource.com/point-of-view/walt-wright/fall-feeding/

De Colores,
Ken

Finski

Quote from: Michael Bush on November 25, 2009, 09:28:45 PM
I find you need some force and you need it in drops.  a sprinkler from a long distance or a sprayer of some kind.  I never could get it go to in by simply dunking them.


It is not that difficult. I use very much comb filling when I give extra food to bees.

Some one has said: "Everything works if you let it

If bees have a big lag of food in spring, I fill combs and put the box under brood box. During one week bees lift the food to upper box. So the brood box remain warm. When I visit at week end in my apiary, I do not put feeding box over the hive. It is too cool becaus it is often  -5C at night.

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Cindi

The sugar syrup must go in the air must go out, fine drops.  Someone suggested somewhere in my research studies, using a coffee tin with tiny holes punched in the bottom, the frame in a childs swimming pool thingy, as Finski said (to catch the excess syrup that will inevitably NOT go into the cells), the can shaken, so that only minute amounts of syrup fall, with the aid of gravity into the cell, pushing the air out.  Oblique, meaning, the frame on an angle.  The air must leave the cell before the syrup can go in, laws of nature....beautiful days, lovin', livin', havin', health.  Cindi
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