copper naphthenate and meneral sprite

[schawee]

 i talked to a beek today that is selling hive and super boxes.he asked me how i protected my hive boxes. i told him i paint them.he said he uses copper naphthenate mixed with menrial sprite.i never heard that used on bee boxes.has anyone heard of that.   ...schawee

[hardwood]

We used to use copper napthenate years back before they started treating wood with the now discarded cyanide (CCA) wood treatments. I can tell you for a fact that that stuff is a bout as nasty as it gets for bugs. If you paint a little bit on the end of a log it will kill everything in that log in a day! He must treat the boxes and let them dry or air out for a good while before use. I wouldn't go near it myself!

Scott

[AllenF]

Schawee, hit this link. 
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,27290.0.html

[schawee]

he told me that he mix one gal of copper naphthenate to 5 gal of meneral sprite.he said he been using it for 20 years and never had a problem with it.he let it sit for 6 weeks after dipping the hives in it.im like yall i will never use that stuff.   ...schawee

[beee farmer]

he told me that he mix one gal of copper naphthenate to 5 gal of mineral sprite.he said he been using it for 20 years and never had a problem with it.he let it sit for 6 weeks after dipping the hives in it.I'm like y'all i will never use that stuff.   ...schawee

I use a similar treatment. except I sometimes use used motor oil instead of Copper Nap. and I sometimes substitute diesel fuel for mineral oil :cheer:

[Mardak]

Many Beeks here in Victoria and NSW have used copper napthenate on their hiveware. A lot time needs to be left after the soaking?(6 weeks plus)dipping for residue levels to be safe for the bees. You will know what period of time this is due either large scale bee deaths or no fatalities. :-D

[fish_stix]

Copper napthenate has been sold for many years as a hive preservative. It's currently sold by Dadant and others, under the trade name Perm-E8. I've used it a lot, not currently using it due to the cost, not of the CN but the mineral spirits to mix it with. Never had any dead bees and we never let it age very long before using it on the bees. As long as the wood has dried you're good to go. Mixed it 1 gal CN to 3 gal MS. Used as directed, you should never have a problem with it and it works wonders on wood preservation.

[Michael Bush]

I don't put anything in the hive I wouldn't eat off of... would you make a food container out of treated wood?  I wouldn't.

[Tommyt]

http://www.food-security.info/pdf%20(English)/ECHO%20(English)/Beehive%20Designs.pdf

I just read this and this guy says for Tropical areas it is good to use ???
This only a Portion of the Literature on the page but for me it was a good read
But I am also Very new too Bees
Tom

BEEHIVE DESIGNS FOR THE TROPICS
BY G.F. TOWNSEND, PROFESSOR EMERITUS,
DEPT. OF ENVIRONMENTAL BIOLOGY, UNIV. OF GUELPH

WOOD PRESERVATIVES
In tropical areas it is necessary to either use wood which is resistant to termites or ants, or to treat the wooden parts
of the hive. If you wish to stay away from using any of the wood preservatives, the equipment may be dipped in a
very hot solution of paraffin wax for a two-minute period. The temperature should be in the neighborhood of
158°C. Sometimes up to 50% rosin or some beeswax may be added to this mixture. This procedure is dangerous
unless special equipment is devised for the dipping and the heating. The only wood preservative, which is
relatively non-toxic to bees, is copper naphthanate. In any event, any beekeeping equipment treated with a wood
preservative should be allowed to dry well and air before being used. If paint only is desired, then the best material
is an oil-base paint containing aluminum. In tropical areas it is necessary to select the type of wood carefully unless
a good preservative is used. In many of the tropical areas Pinus radiata is more readily available and is certainly a
lighter wood to handle that some of the others. This wood must be treated in some manner and the copper