Raising different breeds

Started by tenderton, January 12, 2011, 01:03:18 AM

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tenderton

Hi, I'm new to beekeeping. Ordered equip. and have hives assembled.  I have ordered 2 nucs of carniolins for this spring that I will keep in my back yard. In western New York, (about 20 miles north of Buffalo area) I also plan to keep a hive or 2 at a friends house about 10+ miles away. I was thinking of using italians at that site. My thought was to do so to get a personal comparison of the 2 varieties. Is this something you would recommend doing or not? Just curious if it's a good idea or not. Also, if I decide I don't like a particular colony or breed, can I just requeen with a different breed in the same colony?
Thanks for the info....
Tim

Finski

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I have ha 40 years italians. They are many.
I had 10 years carniolans. They are many too.

Biggest difference is that italians swarm some weeks later. In my area they are able to make brood for main yield before they swarm.

Carciolans swarmed so that they slowed down brood rearing when it was best period to lay bees for main yield.

Carniolan has early spring build up. They have a good pollen storage over winter.
When you feed italians with pollen patty, their build up is exactly the same.
Italians have big winter clusters.

Otherwise these two are very same. A good yield comes from good pastures. It is not a race issue.


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AllenF

I think they will both do fine.   Here is a page from the tread up.  Northern queens.   http://www.nsqba.org/typesofhoneybees.html

Finski

Quote from: AllenF on January 12, 2011, 01:51:28 PM
I think they will both do fine.   Here is a page from the tread up.  Northern queens.   http://www.nsqba.org/typesofhoneybees.html

that identification of races is not true. Italian wintering under average!

Italian bee winters as well as Carniolan. But the strain must be locally adapted and selected.
If I bye queens far from south, they make brood all winter and those will die.

Someone imported Australian package bees to Finland and if you did not chang the quuens all hives died next winter.

Alaska beekeepers bye nucs from south. They keep bees in uninsulated hives and colonies do not survive. Many kill the hives in winter and bye new colonies in spring. No one do that here.


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