Second Swarm within a week - Opinions?

[Irina]

I have a situation with one of my hive!
If any of you remember my topic  "Is it swarming - need to identify" with a pic of my hive on May 24.

It looked like they wanted to swarm but they did not in my opinion, because when I checked the hive and it was very, very overcrowded with approximately 10 queen cells. After getting some suggestions from the forum, I decided to split this hive (on May 26), but could not find the queen even though she was marked and I never had a problem to spot her before. I could not leave them like that and I splitted the queen cells, brood and storage anyway.

Then, Original hive had a swarm on May 30, swarmed colony ended up on the top of the very tall pine tree, and it was gone in one day.

Then, again Original hive had a second swarm on June 4.

On June 5, I checked the Original hive and found strong enough colony, several open queen cells and 5 capped queen cells, no eggs, some capped brood, storage, pollen, good activity.

I checked new hive and found several open queen cells, one capped queen cell, no eggs, some capped brood and some frames have a lot of combs with brown substance on the bottom. Does brown color indicate the emerged brood?
Do you have any opinions, explanation, etc.??
Thank you
Irina, New Beek

[indypartridge]

On June 5, I checked the Original hive and found strong enough colony, several open queen cells and 5 capped queen cells, no eggs, some capped brood, storage, pollen, good activity.

I'd leave it alone for 3 weeks - that will give any emerged virgin time to mature, mate and start laying. At three weeks you should see some eggs and larva.

I checked new hive and found several open queen cells, one capped queen cell, no eggs, some capped brood and some frames have a lot of combs with brown substance on the bottom. Does brown color indicate the emerged brood?

Brown could be from emerged brood, or maybe some kind of pollen. Hard to say without seeing.
Like your original hive, it reads like you have, or are about to have, a virgin queen. Same 3 weeks as above.

[boca]

I have a Hungarian beekeeping book which says:

The first swarm leaves usually around the time when the first queen cell is capped. The second swarm follows it after 7-11 days, the third after 3-5 days the others almost daily.

This is observed on the Carniolan honey bee  typical in Hungary. Apis mellifera ligustica: the first swarm leaves a few days before the capping of the first queen cell.

[Brian D. Bray]

I have a Hungarian beekeeping book which says:

The first swarm leaves usually around the time when the first queen cell is capped. The second swarm follows it after 7-11 days, the third after 3-5 days the others almost daily.

This is observed on the Carniolan honey bee  typical in Hungary. Apis mellifera ligustica: the first swarm leaves a few days before the capping of the first queen cell.

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Finally a beekeeping book that gives the correct info on swarm succession.  It applies to all Apis m. bees.

[AR Beekeeper]

I agree except on the prime swarm leaving before the 1st cell is capped.  I have had swarms not leave until the capped cells are starting to emerege.

[Brian D. Bray]

I agree except on the prime swarm leaving before the 1st cell is capped.  I have had swarms not leave until the capped cells are starting to emerege.

True, but that's beekeeping.  The advice I give beekeepers is that a hive will cast off it's primary swarm sometime between when the 1st queen cell is capped and the 1st virgin queen emerges.