Old Frames - No Wedge - Just Grooves

[ButternutFarm]

I apologize in advance for the novice question... I'm in need of some honey supers (at least I'm hoping so). I'm kind of sentimental. I really prefer all wood stuff and all real wax foundation. My neighbor kept bees about 15 years ago, and he has all his old stuff. He let me have 4 medium supers with frames. The wax is in really bad shape though, dried to almost powder. These are the frames with just grooves on the top and bottom, no removable wedge.  All I've ever bought is crimped wired foundation for frames with the removable wedge. Would I just snip off the little crimped elbow on the regular foundation and fit it into the grooved-only frame? I guess it'd be placing the sheet in one groove, bending it slightly, and popping it into the other? I don't want to take the frames apart obviously. I guess either way (wedge or groove) I'd be adding those side clips. Does this all sound reasonable? Worth it? The used super bodies and frames are in great shape. It's just the need for new foundation that's the problem.

[rbinhood]

Go on-line to www.mannlakeltd.com they have foundation that is designed for these frames......it has a metal reinforcing strip down each side to keep the foundation straight after it is installed in the frames.

[G3farms]

You can get crimp wired foundation that does not have the hooks.

[AliciaH]

Go on-line to www.mannlakeltd.com they have foundation that is designed for these frames......it has a metal reinforcing strip down each side to keep the foundation straight after it is installed in the frames.

Are you referring to Duragilt?  I use that.  It's a very, very thin plastic coated with wax on both sides.  I've had no problems bending it slightly to replace foundation in my frames.  The only thing is, make sure it's warm and that the wax is soft.  If it's too cool, the wax will crack and peel from the plastic and then only thing you'll get is funky drone comb or cross comb.

[Jim134]

You can get crimp wired foundation that does not have the hooks.

Get the right size crimp wired foundation that fits the frames that does not have the hooks and I use Cat#165 Walter T. Kelley (Wax Tube Fastener) .

http://kelleybees.com/CMS/CMSPage.aspx?organizationId=3&PageName=products

 http://youtu.be/vIoeCPWP6AE

 hope this will help DO NOT USE  Duragilt it  is no good  IMHO all so I would cross wired it and embedder in to the wax just my $0.02

 I have an (Cat# 109) electric embedder (Cat# 153)  Transformer an (Cat#160)  spur wire embedder and (Cat# 59&59-M)  foundation device all are W.T. Kelly

      OR you can use get the right size Plastic Foundation sheets and bend them in
 


             BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)