Beekeepers Have Low Incidence of Cancer ?

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Tommyt

Found this on another Page thought a few may like the read

http://apitherapy.blogspot.com/2012/01/beekeepers-have-low-incidence-of-cancer.html

Honeybees Health Benefits and Cancer
Inform Africa, December 25, 2011

...Beekeepers have the lowest incidence of cancer of all the occupations worldwide. This fact was acknowledged in the annual report of the New York Cancer Research Institute in 1965. Almost half a century ago, the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Vol. 9(2), Oct., 1948, published a report by William Robinson, M.D., et al., in which it was claimed that bee pollen added to food (in the ratio of 1 part to 10,000) prevented or delayed the appearance of malignant mammary tumour.

L.J. Hayes, M.D had the courage to announce, "Bees sterilise pollen by means of a glandular secretion antagonistic to tumours." Other doctors, including Sigmund Schmidt, M.D., and Ernesto Contreras, M.D., seem to agree that something in pollen works against cancer.

Dr W. Schweisheimer also said that scientists at the Berlin Cancer Institute in Germany had never encountered a beekeeper with cancer. A French study concerning the cause of death of 1,000 beekeepers included only case of a beekeeper that died of cancer. The incidence of cancer-caused deaths in a group of French farmers was 100 times higher than the group of beekeepers.

Till date, no study has faulted the fact that beekeepers have very low, almost negligible incidence of cancer worldwide. Due to the weight of this fact and coupled with his experience, John Anderson, Professor of beekeeping, University of Aberdeen, unequivocally declared: "Keep bees and eat honey if you want to live long. Beekeepers live longer than anyone else".

But why and how do bee stings prevent or heal cancer? First, the major component of bee sting venom is mellitin, which has powerful bacterial and cytotoxic properties. The mellitin in bee venom activates two main glands – adrenal cortex and the hypophysis, which in turn begin to secrete hormones that have strong anti-inflammatory effect. Cancer and many other degenerative diseases are often preceded by inflammation. Bee venom also stimulates the immune system and cancer is less likely to gain a foothold in those with strong immune system.

Nothing promotes blood circulation better than the bee venom, which dissolves plaque in blood vessels and flush it out to ensure free flow of blood. Bee venom contains proteins and amino acids (18 of the 20 obligatory amino acids). When small doses of bee venom gets into the blood they compensate for the deficit of amino acids, make active hormones and vitamins, lower the level of cholesterol and have a positive effect on fat metabolism....
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JackM

Wow, awesome material.  Especially the part about increasing blood flow.  I wonder if that could be beneficial to the heart patient?  Wonder if it has even been studied.  How many stings a year did the subjects average?  Much information still needs to be found.  

I wonder if it would have a positive effect on atherosclerosis?  Only fatty plaque buildup or calcific?  Oh so many questions come to mind.

EDIT: 

Even more questions.....any data out there on pain control and bee stings?  In particular non specific neuralgia, fibromyalgia, and osteoarthritis??????? 
Jack of all trades
Master of none.

sterling

Very intresting, but I wonder if the bee stings makes one alittle mean. :? The reason I wonder that is because some of the ones on this forum that have been beekeeping for many years are a little grouchy. :-D

caticind

Very exciting claims...where's the data?  The first commenter quotes a more recent study which finds only a decrease in lung cancer, attributable to fewer beekeepers being cigarette smokers (apparently we get enough smoke on the job!).

The listing of components of venom with breathless description of their chemical traits does not explain how the minuscule amounts of those compounds one takes in from stings (a few grams a year each, if your bees are particularly hot) would have any impact on the body.  Also, any time an author cites the old amino acid deficit myth it doesn't bode well for the rest of their claims.

My understanding is that there are many basic science studies but zero reputable clinical trials examining the effects of administration of larger targeted doses of venom in apitherapy, with the single exception of desensitization treatment for allergies.  Anecdotes detail improvement and cures of a wide variety of autoimmune and inflammatory disorders, but do not control for other factors and seldom report negative results.  Beekeepers (unless they are quite unlucky) take in venom doses that are smaller and more widely spaced in time than those used in apitherapy.

As with many natural products, the possibilities are interesting, but there is no science here yet.
The bees would be no help; they would tumble over each other like golden babies and thrum wordlessly on the subjects of queens and sex and pollen-gluey feet. -Palimpsest

AliciaH

Maybe its because working with bees can be so zen?

T Beek

Could it also be all that 'living in the moment' that is required in beekeeping? 8-)

There's actually been a lot of apitherapy research related to arthritis and there are many around the world who 'regularly' have live bees shipped to their door so they can 'self medicate' for pain control. 

If I remember right, some of the earliest studies led to the development of cortisone injections.

thomas
"Trust those who seek the truth, doubt those who say they've found it."

gailmo

I put on my Facebook page that I am selling stings for $1 each.  So far....no takers! 

caticind

Quote from: T Beek on January 05, 2012, 03:23:28 PM
Could it also be all that 'living in the moment' that is required in beekeeping? 8-)

There's actually been a lot of apitherapy research related to arthritis and there are many around the world who 'regularly' have live bees shipped to their door so they can 'self medicate' for pain control. 

If I remember right, some of the earliest studies led to the development of cortisone injections.

thomas

I couldn't find any when I searched, but I'd love a link, TBeek. That would be a great contribution to medicine by bees, right up there with using honey as a topical antiseptic!

Although I'm skeptical of most the claims made for apitherapy, esp re: systemic issues like MS, cancer, or asthma, arthritis does seem the most likely condition to benefit.  I do know folks who have experienced some relief of arthritis from self-inflicted stings, but it's not clear whether it is the venom itself, placebo, or secondary effects like "re-recruitment" of the inflammatory response away from the joints that are hurting, or even an effect based on how the brain registers multiple sources of pain, that does the trick.  And I haven't seen a controlled study.  It may be I've got the wrong keywords.  If you can locate a study on apitherapy & arthritis, will you do me the favor of linking?
The bees would be no help; they would tumble over each other like golden babies and thrum wordlessly on the subjects of queens and sex and pollen-gluey feet. -Palimpsest

T Beek

I guess you could start w/ www.apitherapy.org/

That's the site for the American Apitherapy Society.  There's hundreds.

thomas
"Trust those who seek the truth, doubt those who say they've found it."

caticind

I have looked there, and unfortunately they include only research on components of bee products and testimonials.  There are no controlled studies published in their journal.
The bees would be no help; they would tumble over each other like golden babies and thrum wordlessly on the subjects of queens and sex and pollen-gluey feet. -Palimpsest

caticind

A little more summary, after some more time with a search engine and the AAS site TBeek linked.  Just a note, none of what follows applies to desensitization immunotherapy, the one medical use of venom which has been widely studied and well-understood.  I'm talking about studies investigating the medical use of venom as a treatment for illness in humans.

No double-blind clinical trial has ever been conducted on bee venom treatment, that I can find.  In most, participants as well as researchers know whether they are assigned to be given venom or not.  Most trials lack any control.   All controlled trials I can find have been venom vs. another medication, and do not include placebo.  These are not invalid but they cannot be used to exclude placebo effect as the mode of action.

Reputable clinical trials to prove the safety of venom treatment are very common.  In the absence of allergic reaction, bee venom is clearly harmless when administered at doses used in apitherapy.  

But all of the clinical studies those examining effectiveness of bee venom as a medical treatment are either single case studies or very small (<100 participants total) and very short (less than 6 weeks of treatment) studies, and most are performed in countries without robust academic review systems.  The most reputable academic institution to publish on the topic in the last 10 years was a department of acupuncture and moxibustation at a medical college in South Korea....and that paper, pretty well-written, was a literature review which found only one controlled trial, and none which were double-blind.  Not a single one is published in a peer-reviewed journal in the US or Europe.  The AAS journal lacks a peer-review system, and regularly publishes non-academic testimonials.

The best designed studies on venom were not medical trials but scientific basic research.  Good animal studies have found that injected venom has anti-pain and anti-inflammatory effects and compounds which, when isolated, display a variety of positive effects.

It is not unreasonable that osteoarthritis, at least, and potentially many other inflammatory and chronic pain disorders would respond well to bee venom.

However, at present there appears to be exactly zero legitimate medical research on the topic.  Its unfortunate that the large apitherapy societies persist in publishing air castles and sprang-from-my-deathbed testimonials instead of gathering their resources to conduct large, well-designed clinical trials.
The bees would be no help; they would tumble over each other like golden babies and thrum wordlessly on the subjects of queens and sex and pollen-gluey feet. -Palimpsest

splitrock

#11
"However, at present there appears to be exactly zero legitimate medical research on the topic. "

Why would they want to find something good for you that they can't patent, to replace the crap they have patented and make fortunes off of.....????

Looking at alternative medicines and or therapies, one may find they (the alternatives) have been looking into bee stings for a while.

 

caticind

Quote from: splitrock on January 06, 2012, 07:39:50 PM
Looking at alternative medicines and or therapies, one may find they (the alternatives) have been looking into bee stings for a while.

Unfortunately they haven't been applying scientific method to their inquiries.  I'm not asking for big pharma to do a study - I'm well aware they have incentives to ignore alternatives where profitable drugs already exist.  And big studies take money.

But "I recruited 10 people with x symptoms and told them I'd inject them with bee venom, and then I injected them with bee venom, and they all got better." is just not good experimental design.  Some of the studies I read while writing the above post probably could have yielded the same results if they had injected saline.

If several practitioners could pool resources to do a small study with solid methods - for instance, recruit 100 people with x symptoms, blindly inject half with bee venom and half with saline - and then found that 45 of the venom group improved, and only 15 of the saline group did, that would be a step in the right direction.  And it would not take big money to run this kind of study if the will could be found.

I understand that many alt medicine practitioners feel they don't need the research to know it works, as they are relying on their own training and experience.  But just as in conventional medicine, some people will always go into alternative medicine purely as a business scam to extract money from sick people, with no regard for the results.  Without research, even if apitherapy is the best thing since penicillin it is impossible for the average sufferer to distinguish between the practices of the honorable believer and the charlatan and both will continue to attract plenty of business.
The bees would be no help; they would tumble over each other like golden babies and thrum wordlessly on the subjects of queens and sex and pollen-gluey feet. -Palimpsest

Richard M

It's rubbish. A proper study (by real scientists) back in 1979 demonstrated no net effect one way or the other - less lung cancer but more Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/536856




GSF

caticind, sometimes it takes modern science decades to catch up with what we already know. Interesting pro's and con's.
When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you - then you know your nation is doomed.

deknow

Oh please...vague, unsubstantiated, and clearly false claims.

These kinds of things are truly offensive.  I remember hearing one speaker at our local bee club telling the group that 'beekeepers don't get cancer'....to an audience that included two beekeepers (that I knew about at the time) who were dying of cancer.

iddee

This reminds me of a popular headline back in the seventies.

""Scientists have learned what grandma has known for a thousand years""

The articles went on to explain how the chemicals in chicken soup had been found to help with colds.
Scientists had finally proven what and how.

After personally knowing two severe cases, one MS and the other cancer, which had drastic improvement after bee sting treatments, I have to believe the venom at least had something to do with it. It may not work for all anatomies, nor in all cases, but I will always believe it is well worth trying, if no allergic reactions are present.
"Listen to the mustn'ts, child. Listen to the don'ts. Listen to the shouldn'ts, the impossibles, the won'ts. Listen to the never haves, then listen close to me . . . Anything can happen, child. Anything can be"

*Shel Silverstein*

BeeMaster2

I have a good friend that about 13 years ago learned that she had cancer, her husband could not handle it and left, she lost her job and then her house and the doctors gave up on saving her. She was in deep depression and new that as a child she had had a severe reaction to bees. She bought a hive knowing that the stings would end her life. After numerous stings the cancer started to subside and she is still with us today. She gets a bee sting every day to stay healthy.
Jim
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Ben Franklin

Acebird

Quote from: sawdstmakr on January 06, 2016, 12:31:09 PM
She bought a hive knowing that the stings would end her life. After numerous stings the cancer started to subside and she is still with us today. She gets a bee sting every day to stay healthy.
Jim

Well Jim if it is not a sanctioned scientific study with lots of charts and figures your story has no merit. :rolleyes:

I will tell my wife who is a cancer survivor and has a bad reaction to stings.  It may be an ace in the hole if she relapses.  Thanks.

Brian Cardinal
Just do it

splitrock

Very few organizations have the funds to hire the qualified people to properly test and document well enough to play in the league big pharma does.

By design!