Bees poisoned

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hardwood

March 25, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
We've got a small mating yard that we move splits in and out of. It's next to 100 or so acres of citrus. The owner of the 10 acre grove right next to us always alerts me as to their spray schedule but the owners of the rest never do. I think what happened is that one of them sprayed during the bloom. 22 nucs w/new queens were devastated! The strong drone hives were knocked back a bit but are mostly OK.

Bee poisoning

It could also be a neighbor 1/4 mi away that complained about bees in his hot tub. I offered to buy him a cover for it but never heard back. Maybe he set out some poison syrup?? I kinda doubt it but might be a possibility.

I'll be finding out more come Monday.

Scott
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

tefer2

#1
March 25, 2012, 05:33:29 PM
My money is on the hot tub guy! What could ya do anyway? Maybe drain it for him!
How are those jester boxes working for you?

FRAMEshift

#2
March 25, 2012, 05:37:28 PM
Quote from: hardwood on March 25, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
I offered to buy him a cover for it but never heard back.

You could offer him a spray bottle with almond extract in it.  His hot tub will smell better and the bees should leave it alone.
"You never can tell with bees."  --  Winnie-the-Pooh

G3farms

#3
March 25, 2012, 05:45:17 PM
WOW!! Sorry for your losses, just when you think things are going your way............wham!!

I know you will bounce back and best of luck with everything.
those hot bees will have you steppin and a fetchin like your heads on fire and your keister is a catchin!!!

Bees will be bees and do as they please!

hardwood

#4
March 25, 2012, 05:46:24 PM
Tefer, Some are Kevin's (Jester) nucs and some are from an older design by John Sauls (both of whom are local). They're great for making splits into but you have to transfer them into wooden nucs or 10-framers within a day or two or they overheat in the FL sun and it melts the comb and kills the bees. The wood ones seen in the video are ones we make but I only have 100 of those. You can keep them in the wood ones for a long time (screened bottom).

Scott
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

woodchopper

#5
March 25, 2012, 09:03:16 PM
I don't wish this on anybody. Sorry you had to go through this and I hope you find who is responsible.
Every man looks at his wood pile with a kind of affection- Thoreau

AllenF

#6
March 25, 2012, 09:11:45 PM
What kind of spray do you put on citrus when they are in bloom?    And were you feeding these nucs?    Open feeding or jars on each one?

jaseemtp

#7
March 25, 2012, 10:33:26 PM
that really stinks, sorry bout it
"It's better to die upon your feet than to live upon your knees!" Zapata

asprince

#8
March 25, 2012, 10:36:14 PM
Been there myself. I feel your pain.


Steve
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schawee

#9
March 25, 2012, 10:45:09 PM
man that sucks.
BEEKEEPER OF THE SWAMP

hardwood

#10
March 26, 2012, 12:29:14 AM
Allen, they use "mustang" for the spray. Most spray well before the bloom but I saw a large (1000 acre) grove being sprayed just a few miles from there on Friday at about noon time. I've talked with several beekeepers here and we are going to report the daytime use. I have a meeting with our ag inspector tomorrow morning and am hoping he can be of help.

No, I haven't been feeding. The flow from citrus is a really strong one!

Scott
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

AllenF

#11
March 26, 2012, 07:04:46 PM
From Mustang ag page.
"Citrus growers should be aware that most of the broad-spectrum insecticides recommended for psyllid control cannot be applied when citrus is blooming because of the impact these products may have on pollinators. Planning ahead to control psyllids prior to the presence of bloom will help reduce the need to apply pesticides during the bloom period. Check the pesticide label for restrictions on application of a product when trees are in bloom."

If it was sprayed, then it was the killer.

luvin honey

#12
March 26, 2012, 07:26:24 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that :(
The pedigree of honey
Does not concern the bee;
A clover, any time, to him
Is aristocracy.
---Emily Dickinson

Beeboy01

#13
March 26, 2012, 08:18:22 PM
Sorry to hear about the bee kill, were they for increases or for sale? Let us know what the inspector says
Ed

Joe D

#14
March 26, 2012, 08:45:55 PM

Sorry to hear of your lost, Hardwood

Joe

Larry Bees

#15
March 26, 2012, 09:03:30 PM
Sorry to hear of your loss Scott. Is that the yard at Oak Hill that June and I visited you at? Larry

backyard warrior

#16
March 26, 2012, 09:51:15 PM
Everyone cries they want bees to polinate then the farmers go and do that bull id be really pist and id make sure the dept of agriculture finds out who did it and makes them pay for your loss.  Chris

hardwood

#17
March 26, 2012, 09:54:58 PM
Larry, yes, that's the yard that y'all came to. It's been reported folks but there are so many different groves in the area that it'll be hard to find who's responsible.

Scott
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

rdy-b

#18
March 27, 2012, 06:59:18 PM
 sorry to Hear of your troubles-when you talked to AG extension where did there sympathies lie
with the growers and there problems with the threat of there citrus groves being devastated
by the greening--or where they sympathetic to the beekeeper and his up hill battle to survive
in a world that is becoming to toxic to maintain sustainability--  :-x  RDY-B

Intheswamp

#19
March 27, 2012, 07:21:37 PM
Scott, I hate it for ya'll.  Sounds like some inept growers to me who don't give a sh...shoot.  I'm not sure about the poisoned syrup...would the guy with the hot tub be smart(?) enough to do something like that?  You really seem to be a good guy but you've certainly gotten nailed over the last several months...ever get any satisfaction from your boat getting shot up?

You've got a great attitude.  When I see a post of yours I can't help but see you sittin' squatted down beside that swarm in the low bush while you grin eating a banana.  Attitude!!!

Hang in there, man, things will get better! 

Ed
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