Heilyser vaporizer

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KD4MOJ

October 15, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Howdy Folks:

I just received my vaporizer... heats up but doesn't melt the OA crystals. I mean hot to the touch! Tried with a battery and also a 35amp power supply. Interesting... only only draws 5 volts @ 3 amps.

Any ideas?

...DOUG
KD4MOJ

tefer2

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October 15, 2012, 10:39:29 AM
Check your electrical connectors to the unit. You won't be touching it when its starts to work properly. It will burn the skin off of you!

tefer2

#2
October 15, 2012, 10:42:45 AM
If I remember correctly, acid starts to react at around 300 degrees.

danno

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October 15, 2012, 12:07:27 PM
when I first got mine I had the same problem intermittently.  What it turned out being is a broken wire inside the insulation. 

KD4MOJ

#4
October 15, 2012, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: tefer2 on October 15, 2012, 10:39:29 AM
Check your electrical connectors to the unit. You won't be touching it when its starts to work properly. It will burn the skin off of you!

Ok it's definitely not that hot! I crimped and soldered the male connector that mates with the two females... maybe something came loose after I put it in my homemade PVC handle...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ

KD4MOJ

#5
October 15, 2012, 04:39:05 PM
Another issue that just though of is the length of the zip cord (16 gauge). it's about 10 ft so I might need to shorten that. Curious on the length that others have...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ

tefer2

#6
October 15, 2012, 07:47:00 PM
10-15 foot when using lawn tractor battery should work. Make sure you stand up wind from the fumes.

Jim134

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October 16, 2012, 05:30:25 AM
Quote from: KD4MOJ on October 15, 2012, 10:14:25 AM
Howdy Folks:

I just received my vaporizer... heats up but doesn't melt the OA crystals. I mean hot to the touch! Tried with a battery and also a 35amp power supply. Interesting... only only draws 5 volts @ 3 amps.

Any ideas?

...DOUG
KD4MOJ


Did you buy this new and as their a warranty  :?


         BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

Jim134

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October 16, 2012, 05:35:10 AM Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 05:54:12 AM by Jim 134
Quote from: KD4MOJ on October 15, 2012, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: tefer2 on October 15, 2012, 10:39:29 AM
Check your electrical connectors to the unit. You won't be touching it when its starts to work properly. It will burn the skin off of you!

Ok it's definitely not that hot! I crimped and soldered the male connector that mates with the two females... maybe something came loose after I put it in my homemade PVC handle...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ




Quote from: KD4MOJ on October 15, 2012, 04:39:05 PM
Another issue that just though of is the length of the zip cord (16 gauge). it's about 10 ft so I might need to shorten that. Curious on the length that others have...

...DOUG
KD4MOJ


Now have you add zip cord to ???  So now you may have killed the warranty OK  :roll:

         


                 BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

danno

#9
October 16, 2012, 09:00:14 AM
Come on guys This isn't rocket science.  12 volts in the wire that runs down the side and is connected to the glow plug.  This is were mine was faulty.   The wire appeared to be in tack but was broken under the red wire insulation.  This caused it to work one time then not the next.  It also increased the burn time.  After replaceing that wire mine has worked problem free for 4 or 5 years.  A good ground on the wire connected to the handle and it will work unless you have a faulty glow plug.   Try hooking it direct to a battery with just one small jumper.  Dont fill th pot with oxalic maybe just alittle water.   It should boil in about 30 sec.    As for the zip cord I have 20 ft on mine so it reaches my truck battery at all yards

tefer2

#10
October 16, 2012, 09:32:38 AM
Have used cheap lamp extension chord to power the thing. No need for anything heavy gauge.
You are only powering one glo plug. Why the pvc handle?

KD4MOJ

#11
October 16, 2012, 09:47:27 AM
Spade connectors keeps the warranty intact.. I'll take a pic.

...DOUG
Kd4MOJ

danno

#12
October 16, 2012, 10:03:35 AM
what warranty?   When mine had a problem there responce was "well that never happened before"   You can buy a replacement glow plug from them for 35.00 plus shipping or you could run down the napa and buy a couple for about 15.00 plus no shipping.  
As Terry said lamp cord is all that is needed.   Up until this year I used 20 ft of brown lamp cord but after getting wrapped up in it a few times I switched to orange 2 wire.  

tefer2

#13
October 16, 2012, 10:13:35 AM
I think that the weak point is where you hook your power wire to the unit. There is a lot of flexing of the wire while moving from hive to hive. You have to cool the bowl down with a damp sponge or rag in between hives. If you add acid before cooling it will start to vapor before you can stick it into the entrance. Don't get the glow plug wet or you will short it out.

jmblakeney

#14
October 18, 2012, 01:19:21 AM
I wish someone would make a step by step vid on how to make one of these things.

James
"I believe the best social program is a job...." - Ronald Reagan

danno

#15
October 18, 2012, 09:10:06 AM
robo had a set of plans at one time

Jim134

#16
October 18, 2012, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: jmblakeney on October 18, 2012, 01:19:21 AM
I wish someone would make a step by step vid on how to make one of these things.

James

James.....

Do you have a Bridgeport miller ???



           BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

Jim134

#17
October 18, 2012, 09:16:19 AM
Quote from: Jim 134 on October 18, 2012, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: jmblakeney on October 18, 2012, 01:19:21 AM
I wish someone would make a step by step vid on how to make one of these things.

James

James.....

Do you have a Bridgeport miller ???



           BEE HAPPY Jim 134 :)
"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

jmblakeney

#18
October 19, 2012, 09:52:53 PM
Quote from: Jim 134 on October 18, 2012, 09:11:39 AM
James.....

Do you have a Bridgeport miller ???

No, I don't but I do have a few friends that are machinist.

James
"I believe the best social program is a job...." - Ronald Reagan
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