Snake oil or the real thing

Started by JackM, September 29, 2013, 03:07:32 PM

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JWChesnut

The Swedish researchers have been writing on this subject since 2005.
A recent publicly downloadable pdf is
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033188

This ties into the push/pull over hive biota and treatments.  I think there are valid observations on both sides of the debate, but way too much posturing.

Michael Bush

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buzzbee

Reminds me of when I worked on a farm years ago.Sometimes when you had a bovime that may have been over treated with antibiotics,we would get some rumin from a healthy animal and give it to the ill one . It gave a boost to the digestive tract.

MsCarol

Quote from: buzzbee on September 30, 2013, 07:48:19 AM
Reminds me of when I worked on a farm years ago.Sometimes when you had a bovime that may have been over treated with antibiotics,we would get some rumin from a healthy animal and give it to the ill one . It gave a boost to the digestive tract.

I have done that with goats.....and even still have all my fingers. :-D

They now market probiotics in a "calking gun" that does much the same. Bitten fingers is a good motivation for invention.

Not sure the probiotics in the tube would be close enough to what the bees use to be helpful or not.....but it is a thought.


BeeMaster2

Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "Eat sh-- and Bark at the Moon".
:imsorry:
Jim
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

MsCarol

Young foals often ingest momma's poop to gain those needed probiotics.

Make one wonder if momma's pre-chewing food for babes also added the needed bacteria,

As I feel we/I may be going way OT, is there any reason that offering a sweetened version on probiotics would be a problem with the bees?

On the other hand, in livestock country they already frequent cow poop piles and salt licks.