Few newbie questions

Started by BumbbleBee, April 13, 2014, 06:07:58 AM

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BumbbleBee

At the time of installation, my friend shifted the frames from his nuc box to mine like this:
All 4 brood frames are on one side.

I thought usually the brood frames are placed in the middle and empty frames at the ends. Which is the better way?
The frames seem to have sticked to each other. How to separate them?

And added 4 super frames on the same side.


Two of the manually fixed super-combs (3rd & 4th) (which were cut out of the cap of his nuc box) had fallen from the two super frames (one is small, and the other one is large). You might be able to see this in the picture. I still see the bees working on these combs. My friend told he'll fix the combs again, but delaying. Maybe he's really busy. Can I fix it? If yes, how to?

Since I didn't see any new combs built by the bees after 20 days, I flipped the honey super horizontally, so that the two frames with foundations (which I installed) are placed right above the brood frames. As you can see it in the following picture. Would it encourage the bees to build more super combs faster?


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Steel Tiger

 If by "super comb" you mean "honey comb", the bees will build that as needed. If there's not much of a nectar flow going, the bees have no reason to expand. I have no idea what you have in bloom in your part of the world. If there's not much right now, you might want to feed. That should encourage some comb building. Also, the bees will more than likely work on the four empty frames in the bottom box before working hard on the top one.
As far as stuck frames, if it's just burr comb, use a hive tool to separate them. If it's cross comb, you'll have to do a bit of work. Let us know whether it's burr comb or cross comb and I'm sure someone will go into detail on how to fix it.

For the comb that fell off, use rubber bands to hold them within a frame. the bees will attach them back. Just wrap the rubber bands around the frame.

BumbbleBee

#2
It's the peak time of bloom in my region. It has been rained 4-5 times and there was a heavy rain once in the last two weeks. So I believe the nectar flow should not be scarce.

How to to classify whether it's a burr comb or cross-comb?

I don't have a hive tool. Would a sharp knife work? Even the Beekeepers' Co-operative societies in my area recommend using knife for everything. As a matter of fact, they have no idea about hive tool.

Switchback

Looks like you have 6 frames when it should be 8 frames. This will turn into a problem. You should fill the supper with frames. Steel tiger is right about the rubber band to hold the comb till they attach it. Just be real careful when you handle the frames till they get it attached.
   
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BumbbleBee

#4
OK, I will fill the gaps. The beekeeper who installed my hive installed only 6. He said it will be too tight when I asked about it. But I still haven't got courage enough to take the fallen combs out of the super and fix them to the frames. I'm afraid if they might find it disturbing and swarm out.

iddee

If you don't do it now, it will be more disturbing when you clean up the mess. The bees will not leave. Get both boxes full of frames, pushed tightly together, and rubber band any loose comb into frames.

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jayj200

A painters 5 in one tool worls. and will scrape things cleaner. HD and Lowes both carry what looks to be hive tools

sc-bee

Cross comb crosses from one frame continuously from one frame to the other. Other words a continuous building pattern. Burr comb is just stuck together in places here and there. Maybe not a good definition but I saw no one had tried to put it in words for you :-D

When the foundation is not drawn or frames not drawn you crowd them. After it is drawn, in honey boxes, you reduce the number of frames. Spacing with too few frames encourages cross comb, burr comb, and thicker comb on some and not others. Something for us to remember however is a lot of beekeeping is local and about resources and you mentor may be doing it as your Country does.... I am not sure?

I see no one has commented on all the frames on one side of the box issue. Again this may be a culture thing? I am not sure it really matters. But as stated above they are more apt to complete the bottom box before they start on the top. Why would you add a top box before they draw the bottom?

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