Screens for bottom boards

Started by flyboy, June 06, 2014, 12:34:40 PM

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flyboy

What are you using for bottom board screens? I want to make a new one that has an open area with a removeable tray for easy inspection.

I am assuming screen door screen would be too small.
Cheers
Al
First packages - 2 queens and bees May 17 2014 - doing well

mikecva

There are several around, different designs function slightly different so build to suit your needes
Mann Lake's: $ 28.95
Brushy Mountain Bee Farm's: $ 17.95

good luck  -Mike
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danno

Just use #8 galv. wire.   Thats  8 holes to one inch.   Most, myself included are drifting away from screen bottom boards

drjeseuss

I still like the screen for a variety of reasons, particularly in warmer months. IPM, humidity, etc are good reasons to use one, though I also notice the screen can let things in that otherwise wouldn't have been there in the first place. Around me #8 screen isn't available. Several online bee stores sell by the foot. I made one using two layers of 1/4" screen perfectly offset to give the proper spacing. Having done that once I'd order #8 online next time. It was a real pain using 1/4" stuff. Window screen is too small and blocks mites and shb from falling through, while 1/4" would make the bottom virtually open allowing most anything in or out, not good.
Pleasant words are as a honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones.
-Proverbs 16:24

AliciaH

Quote from: danno on June 06, 2014, 01:19:41 PM
Most, myself included are drifting away from screen bottom boards

I wonder if this is a location thing?  I love my screened bottom boards!  Mold inside the hives is a huge problem for Western WA during winter.  With the mite board in, the SBB lets enough air in to better ventilate and move the moist air back out.  If I'm worried about too much air flow, I put the entire hive on a solid base. 

I still have some hives on reversible bottom boards and the difference in how much more moisture is in the hive is significant.  Yes, I have ventilation at the tops, but the solid bottoms seem to absorb (and hold) so much moisture that it just seems to get out of hand.

In the summer, they (combined with a screened inner cover) helps keep the hives cool.  It's one of the easiest modifications I can make to help keep swarming down a bit.

RHBee

I use #6 mesh for SHB control. Oil trays underneath.


Later,
Ray

BlueBee

I buy #8 mesh "hardware cloth" (ie screen) from a bee supply house and staple it onto a bottom board.  It's heavier duty material than window screen and easier to work with IMO.  Window screen has smaller holes than you really want.

I have been adding more screened bottoms to my bee hives and nucs.  They're good for monitoring mites, vaporizers, and in the case of nucs...experimenting with a little electric heat if you want.  I don't use mine for ventilation.

BeeMaster2

I have SBB and STB on every hive I have. Only the nucs do not have them. I get my #8 from an old hardware store in town. They sell it by linear foot, it is 3' wide.
Jim
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

capt44

I still use the screened bottom boards on some of my hives but I am going back to a solid bottom board.
I tried screened bottom boards for around 4 years but I still had to treat for varroa mites and small hive beetles.
I also found that the bees will fill out the bottom of the frames in the lower deep box using solid bottom boards.
Richard Vardaman (capt44)

drjeseuss

Quote from: capt44 on June 09, 2014, 12:24:39 AM
I also found that the bees will fill out the bottom of the frames in the lower deep box using solid bottom boards.
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I use both a screen bottom and a slatted rack and they fill in the frames well. This was not true before I added the slatted rack.
Pleasant words are as a honeycomb, sweet to the soul, and health to the bones.
-Proverbs 16:24

flyboy

Hi Drjeseuse,
What's a slatted rack?
Cheers
Al
First packages - 2 queens and bees May 17 2014 - doing well

AliciaH

Quote from: drjeseuss on June 09, 2014, 01:31:04 PM
Quote from: capt44 on June 09, 2014, 12:24:39 AM
I also found that the bees will fill out the bottom of the frames in the lower deep box using solid bottom boards.
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I use both a screen bottom and a slatted rack and they fill in the frames well. This was not true before I added the slatted rack.

If you have extra mediums and put new frames and foundation in, that works well under the first brood box, too. 

Flyboy:  Either option gives the foragers a place to hang out and reduces congestion in the brood areas.

marktrl


Moots

Quote from: danno on June 06, 2014, 01:19:41 PM
Just use #8 galv. wire.   Thats  8 holes to one inch.   Most, myself included are drifting away from screen bottom boards

Agree....Use #8

and

Agree....I've also moved away from SBB.  In fact, my time with them was very short lived.  Personally, they struck me as a lot more trouble than they were worth and it seemed that the majority of folks I talked to had given them a try but were moving back to Solid Bottom boards.

richter1978

Quote from: sawdstmakr on June 07, 2014, 07:28:33 AM
I have SBB and STB on every hive I have. Only the nucs do not have them. I get my #8 from an old hardware store in town. They sell it by linear foot, it is 3' wide.
Jim

Jim, would that be Currie Thomas?  I'd love to buy some #8 locally.

The screened bottom with an oil tray kills a lot of beetles!

alfred

I really like using them. Here is a pic of one of mine:

Hey how do I post a pic??
I know that I have done it before...

Well a pic of my sbb is in this thread:
http://forum.beemaster.com/index.php/topic,29234.msg230414.html#msg230414

Alfred

BeeMaster2

Quote from: richter1978 on June 10, 2014, 07:07:20 AM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on June 07, 2014, 07:28:33 AM
I have SBB and STB on every hive I have. Only the nucs do not have them. I get my #8 from an old hardware store in town. They sell it by linear foot, it is 3' wide.
Jim

Jim, would that be Currie Thomas?  I'd love to buy some #8 locally.

The screened bottom with an oil tray kills a lot of beetles!

No, it is
Paschal Brothers Hardware Co
1118 Myrtle Avenue North
Jacksonville, FL 32204

(904) 354-3566
Jim
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

richter1978

Quote from: sawdstmakr on June 10, 2014, 12:59:54 PM
Quote from: richter1978 on June 10, 2014, 07:07:20 AM
Quote from: sawdstmakr on June 07, 2014, 07:28:33 AM
I have SBB and STB on every hive I have. Only the nucs do not have them. I get my #8 from an old hardware store in town. They sell it by linear foot, it is 3' wide.
Jim

Jim, would that be Currie Thomas?  I'd love to buy some #8 locally.

The screened bottom with an oil tray kills a lot of beetles!

No, it is
Paschal Brothers Hardware Co
1118 Myrtle Avenue North
Jacksonville, FL 32204

(904) 354-3566
Jim


Thank you.

BeeMaster2

Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

flntknpr

I got a 50' roll of #8 mesh screen, 24" wide from Ace hardware.  They dropped the price from the usual $4/foot to $50 for the entire roll.