Frame storage and wax moths

sc-bee · August 24, 2017, 08:20:00 PM

Quote from: Fishing-Nut on August 24, 2017, 04:19:14 PM
How about keeping them in the house? I have stored a bunch in the house and haven't had any issues. Somebody told me that the moths will still get to them. I haven't seen this at all. Seems a little far fetched to me.

I have a beek friends that keeps her in an extra room of the house... she inspects occasionally but has had no issues..

texanbelchers · August 25, 2017, 12:52:24 AM

I had some in the house last winter. They were sprayed with BT. Some moth about 1/3 the size of a normal wax moth got into them. The larva were SHB size. Maybe they were malnourished wax moths. It took months to get them all out of the house. My wife said "Never again!"

eltalia · August 25, 2017, 01:43:01 AM

Quote from: texanbelchers on August 25, 2017, 12:52:24 AM
I had some in the house last winter. They were sprayed with BT. Some moth about 1/3 the size of a normal wax moth got into them. The larva were SHB size. Maybe they were malnourished wax moths. It took months to get them all out of the house. My wife said "Never again!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5HBDJvdxIg

heh... : chuckles:

Bill

herbhome · August 25, 2017, 01:52:58 AM

Saw this a while back. I'm interested in what other, more experienced beeks think about it.

https://youtu.be/-R-f92J67AU

eltalia · August 25, 2017, 04:28:54 AM

Quote from: herbhome on August 25, 2017, 01:52:58 AM
Saw this a while back. I'm interested in what other, more experienced beeks think about it.

https://youtu be/-R-f92J67AU

... worth a shot.
As the lady says ash is alkaline, a pH many a critter avoids. Try some woodash
to start with, from a bonfire where no plastics or cardboards have been burnt?
Only question I would have straight up is the moist ash left after cleaning
would solidify in the cells, bee interesting to see how bees handled that.
They chew wood and dispose of it so solid ash may not be a problem... if they
houseclean it.

Location is interesting. I guessing Filipino, anyone?

Cheers.

Bill

herbhome · August 25, 2017, 11:56:04 AM

Ukrainian, I believe.

sc-bee · August 25, 2017, 04:58:06 PM

herb- I know of a guy that has nailed conduit between some frame and built a rack in an open shed area. The shed is open and gets plenty sunlight. I think that is the key. And maybe air space between the frames....I will have to look for the picture...

Acebird · August 25, 2017, 05:43:04 PM

Quote from: texanbelchers on August 25, 2017, 12:52:24 AM
Maybe they were malnourished wax moths.

If they were pantry moths you would have to get rid of all dry goods. Did you find any in your flour? That is a typically way of getting the infestation..

Acebird · August 25, 2017, 05:49:06 PM

Quote from: herbhome on August 25, 2017, 01:52:58 AM
Saw this a while back.

Nobody I know up here does it. If the frame is not infested to begin with there is little chance it will get any moths over winter up here. When spring comes you put your frames back on the hives. It all works until you get dead outs.

texanbelchers · August 25, 2017, 09:29:15 PM

Quote from: Acebird on August 25, 2017, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: texanbelchers on August 25, 2017, 12:52:24 AM
Maybe they were malnourished wax moths.

If they were pantry moths you would have to get rid of all dry goods. Did you find any in your flour? That is a typically way of getting the infestation..

Not in anything except the boxes and on the walls, ceilings, windows, .....

eltalia · August 25, 2017, 09:34:43 PM

Quote from: herbhome on August 25, 2017, 11:56:04 AM
Ukrainian, I believe.

Yeah Herb, that'd work, as in makes sense. They would own an environment suitable, for sure, as that basement is unlikely getting more than groundheat.
I was going by the Jaysus picture hanging on the wall. In a basement _that_ is "dedication" :-))
Serves me right for value judging the Flips.. heh : chuckle:

Cheerio...

Bill

jalentour · August 25, 2017, 11:36:50 PM

Don't store comb in you house. Unless it's in your freezer.

tjc1 · August 26, 2017, 10:46:01 AM

Somewhere MB relates how his basement became infested from storing comb there - and how he's never got rid of them since! I keep them in the basement, but only after freezing for 24 hours and then sealing in compactor bags.

reinbeau · October 08, 2017, 03:56:46 PM

Quote from: Fishing-Nut on August 24, 2017, 04:19:14 PM
How about keeping them in the house? I have stored a bunch in the house and haven't had any issues. Somebody told me that the moths will still get to them. I haven't seen this at all. Seems a little far fetched to me.

I can assure you wax moths love wintering indoors - I grew some wonderful chicken protein in my living room one year.....

tycrnp · October 08, 2017, 05:34:45 PM

I am assuming this conversation is about frames with comb built out on it. I have several new frames with plastic foundation with a light coat of wax on it. Do I need to take any special precautions in storing these?

BeeMaster2 · October 08, 2017, 07:09:17 PM

TY,
Moths prefer old comb. They usually leave new comb alone, even drawn. If you stack old comb with new comb with no protection, they will damage the new comb as the run out of old comb and also when they are looking for a place to build a cocoon.
That is why I always stack foundation frames separate from drawn and new drawn separate from old drawn.
Jim