How to lure small hive beetles to their death?

Ben Framed · July 27, 2018, 11:30:37 PM

Anyone have the magic answer and detailed description?

Ben Framed · July 27, 2018, 11:33:37 PM

Is their a scent that Small Hive Beetles just simply can not refuse? A scent that they will go to over the smell of a bee hive?

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 12:06:05 AM

Quote from: Redlands Okie on July 27, 2018, 11:39:44 PM
Was at a meeting recently and several people were talking about the hive beetles sticking to those microfiber cleaning cloths when laid inside the hive. No personal experience.

Thanks Redlands Okie, I have heard the same thing but I havn't tried them either. I am at the point of wanting to totally eradicate them! It is always good to get rid of a few here and a few there but I am wanting more. Surely their is some way to have them march to their death!, I am looking for something that is irresistible to them. Some lure that will have them charmed to the point that they can't resist the scent. Something that will make them react to the similarity of the way a swarm marches into their new box when the queen is waiting inside! Something that will lure them (to the rocks the way the old tales of mermaids lured the ships to the rocks!) paus has given me good advice on the screened oil bottom board and I would love to have a bait inside that will draw them in; even better than oil or and vinegar. I want every last one in my area, eradicated! Just like the judge told William Bonnie dead dead dead!!

Surely with all the great minds, all the universities not only in America but through out the world, their has to be a great answer? Thanks, Phillip

Bamboo · July 28, 2018, 03:29:20 AM

Mate when you find that magic solution you are going to be a very wealthy man!

iddee · July 28, 2018, 05:49:21 AM

Ben, while looking, find it for rats, mice, and roaches. You will then be a trillionaire.

Redlands Okie · July 28, 2018, 07:57:24 AM

Probably has nothing to do with getting rid of the hive beetles right now, but how are your hives set up. Has anything been done to keep the beetles out or to break their life cycle? I think they have to go from the hive and down to the ground in the process. I am hearing that sething the hives up off the ground using product that are slick helps. Such as painted pipe. Also to have something covering the ground under the hive such as tin that prevents them from completing the cycle.

BeeMaster2 · July 28, 2018, 08:23:55 AM

Ben,
When I was putting vegetable oil in my trays, the dead would build up in the traysand it seemed like the more dead ones there were in them the more they seem to be attracted to the oil. The trays seem to fill faster when there were more dead ones in the oil. The trays would turn solid black. It was not until our SHB population dwindled that this slowed down.
Jim

Acebird · July 28, 2018, 09:54:14 AM

Honey comb

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 10:28:27 AM

Quote from: Bamboo on July 28, 2018, 03:29:20 AM
Mate when you find that magic solution you are going to be a very wealthy man!

Thanks Bamboo, if we can dominate the hive beetle, this would be a tremendous reward in itself. I am very confident that someone out there is dedicated to achieving this very result. Thank you for your comment. Phillip

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 10:31:20 AM

Quote from: iddee on July 28, 2018, 05:49:21 AM
Ben, while looking, find it for rats, mice, and roaches. You will then be a trillionaire.

Thanks iddee, to funny 😂, but true! As I told Bamboo, I am confident that someone out there is working on this very thing! Something that will lure them to their death! Lol Thanks, Phillip

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 10:37:00 AM

Quote from: Redlands Okie on July 28, 2018, 07:57:24 AM
Probably has nothing to do with getting rid of the hive beetles right now, but how are your hives set up. Has anything been done to keep the beetles out or to break their life cycle? I think they have to go from the hive and down to the ground in the process. I am hearing that sething the hives up off the ground using product that are slick helps. Such as painted pipe. Also to have something covering the ground under the hive such as tin that prevents them from completing the cycle.

Yea, I do appreicate your reply, and prevention and care of the beetle, is always good. This particular time I am more thinking of annihilation, rather than than prevention. And until annihilation is possiable, your suggestions are very important.. thanks, Phillip

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 10:40:04 AM

Quote from: sawdstmakr on July 28, 2018, 08:23:55 AM
Ben,
When I was putting vegetable oil in my trays, the dead would build up in the traysand it seemed like the more dead ones there were in them the more they seem to be attracted to the oil. The trays seem to fill faster when there were more dead ones in the oil. The trays would turn solid black. It was not until our SHB population dwindled that this slowed down.
Jim

Thanks Jim, this just might be the magic bullet!! Thank you for sharing your results, very encouraging. Also thank you paus for answering my PM. Much appreciated!! Sincerely Phillip

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 10:43:17 AM

Quote from: Acebird on July 28, 2018, 09:54:14 AM
Honey comb

Thanks ace, but wouldn't it be nice if there was some kind of scent or pheromone that would have them fighting one another to get to the "death pool"

sounds as if Jim and paus solutation may be the closest thing to it? Thanks Phillip

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 11:00:27 AM

Does anyone know of a person, university, or government that might be working on this very thing and if so what the progress may be?

Acebird · July 28, 2018, 12:41:24 PM

Ben nematodes are the bullet but God only knows how big an area needs to be treated.

Ben Framed · July 28, 2018, 05:18:04 PM

Quote from: Acebird on July 28, 2018, 12:41:24 PM
Ben nematodes are the bullet but God only knows how big an area needs to be treated.

Yes that is one way to kill them in the ground, so I have read. In fact I have purchased some gardstar40 just for that purpose, to treat the ground around the area where the trouble hive was located. What I am asking about is a horse of a different feather. A lure that will have the beetles following like Mary's little lamb. Lined up like beetles ready to board the titanic, so to speak. Anxious to get to the scent at all cost. Something that will draw the beetles to a pitcular spot or place and a one way trip it will be for them. From what Jim described, the oil pan filled with dead beetles sounds good. Have you tried this ace? Again thanks Ace. Phillip

Acebird · July 28, 2018, 06:49:20 PM

No I haven't tried the oil pan. I don't like the mess. About all I have done is pull the pan out dry and dump the tray in front of the chickens. Or like I said leave a spoiled frame out and let the chickens devour the comb and larvae.

Oldbeavo · July 29, 2018, 06:56:03 PM

We use a bait in the Beetle Jails that is made from pollen, honey and vegemite (yeast extract) and some water to make a paste.
Seems to attract them with the most we caught in a few days in a hive was 180.

Ben Framed · July 29, 2018, 08:14:42 PM

Quote from: Oldbeavo on July 29, 2018, 06:56:03 PM
We use a bait in the Beetle Jails that is made from pollen, honey and vegemite (yeast extract) and some water to make a paste.
Seems to attract them with the most we caught in a few days in a hive was 180.

Thanks Oldbeavo. That is impressive!! I sure would like to have the recipe

the ratio to each one of these ingredients? Thanks for your reply!!

sc-bee · July 29, 2018, 09:45:30 PM

I think a lure is already made or I have read of experimental use of one... the controversy is, do you really want to lure them???