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van from Arkansas

September 11, 2019, 11:02:30 PM
Salty hope you are recovering fast and are feeling better everyday.  I saw in the past you mentioned you had difficulty finding queens.  So I am posting 3 pics that are difficult to very difficult to find the queen.  My hope is to train your eyes thus improving your skills at finding queens.  I assure you, there is a queen in each picture.

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I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

van from Arkansas

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September 11, 2019, 11:03:09 PM
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I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

van from Arkansas

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September 11, 2019, 11:03:50 PM
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This is a tough one, I admit.  If you can spot this queen you are good, very good.
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

van from Arkansas

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September 11, 2019, 11:14:02 PM Last Edit: September 11, 2019, 11:24:29 PM by van from Arkansas
Some easy ones, except for the first pic.

Blessings
Van
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

Donovan J

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September 12, 2019, 12:48:23 AM
When I first started beekeeping it was very difficult for me to find the queen. Now I find them like there's an arrow pointing to them. Found the queen in each picture

saltybluegrass

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September 12, 2019, 03:44:01 AM
Look at xerox rubbing it in !!
Van can you believe that I?ve been up and down a ladder 10 days post op? I?m so eager and feel so well after 2 years of battling gall bladder / intestinal problems , I?m already doing too much.
Thanks for your kindness!
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Then all else falls in line
It?s up to me

CoolBees

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September 12, 2019, 12:44:24 PM
Great pics Van.

I remember the 1st couple yrs - I couldn't spot a queen to save me. Now I see every queen in your pics instantly. It just takes time and practice I guess. I loved pointing them out for my daughter to see - but lately, she spots them before me - it must be old age creeping in  :cool:. In either case, queens are amazing.
You cannot permanently help men by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves - Abraham Lincoln

van from Arkansas

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September 12, 2019, 12:56:48 PM
Salty, ironic you mention 2 years and gall bladder issues.  Yep, me too except I experienced one year of issues.  Had gall bladder removed, nausea never reappear after surgery, nausea never came back.  All good now.

Cool, Xerox Agreed, eyes have to learn the focus on the queen. Ever notice when you are not looking for the queen, she gets in the way, in plain sight.

Van
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

saltybluegrass

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September 12, 2019, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: van from Arkansas on September 12, 2019, 12:56:48 PM
Salty, ironic you mention 2 years and gall bladder issues.  Yep, me too except I experienced one year of issues.  Had gall bladder removed, nausea never reappear after surgery, nausea never came back.  All good now.

Cool, Xerox Agreed, eyes have to learn the focus on the queen. Ever notice when you are not looking for the queen, she gets in the way, in plain sight.

Van

Van this caused horrible new management as I?d open a hive and bend over with no energy so I did a haphazryjob. I feel so good to feel good again
And I think to myself, what a wonderful world
Then all else falls in line
It?s up to me

Ben Framed

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September 12, 2019, 10:43:52 PM Last Edit: September 12, 2019, 11:05:38 PM by Ben Framed
Quote from: CoolBees on September 12, 2019, 12:44:24 PM
Great pics Van.

I remember the 1st couple yrs - I couldn't spot a queen to save me. Now I see every queen in your pics instantly. It just takes time and practice I guess. I loved pointing them out for my daughter to see - but lately, she spots them before me - it must be old age creeping in  :cool:. In either case, queens are amazing.

Alan, I have been at it for 18 months now and it is hit and miss for me readily finding new queens. It's frustrating when I know I have a new laying queen and can not find her. I know some say, when you see eggs and larva don't sweat it, but I like to see her at least once. That is why I mark my queens as I find them. This makes all the difference. As most all know, this years color was green.  Therefore I used a florescent green paint pen and buddy, they stick out like a sore thumb! Love it. Also, in the case that I were to loose one to superseding, there would be no question, short of the possibility of the paint coming off, (and the paint has yet to come off), that I have a new queen. Knowing the year of the queen, knowing she is still the same queen of the domain, and easy recognition and finding, are the three main reasons I now mark my queens.
Phillip

CoolBees

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September 13, 2019, 12:42:11 AM
Phillip - your always one (or 3) steps out in front of me.  :cool: I'd like to say I've never looked for a queen, and up till this year that'd be true. ... buuut ... I've had to find them this year  (I'll explain another time) ... so, I've had about 80% success rate per hive inspection so far - in large hives. If I don't find her the first time, I come back in a week and try again.  Haven't missed on the 2nd try .. yet ...  :grin:

It takes some practice for sure - and once your eyes/brain pick up the concept, it's BOOM - there she bee!  :cool: :cool:
You cannot permanently help men by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves - Abraham Lincoln

BeeMaster2

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September 13, 2019, 07:33:58 AM
Salty,
Glad you are feeling better. I had emergency gallbladder surgery about 3 years ago. Gallstones caused a gangrene infection. I thought I would be up and running in a couple of days. It took weeks to recover.
I usually usually do not look for queens, I look for eggs. A couple of weeks ago the bee inspector came and he had to inspect 10 hives. He was just looking at brood. Out of 10 hives, we saw 8 queens. It was so surprising that we were talking about it. We only pulled enough frames in each hive to get to one that had a lot of capped brood.
Jim Altmiller
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

Donovan J

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September 15, 2019, 12:17:55 AM
Quote from: saltybluegrass on September 12, 2019, 03:44:01 AM
Look at xerox rubbing it in !!
Van can you believe that I?ve been up and down a ladder 10 days post op? I?m so eager and feel so well after 2 years of battling gall bladder / intestinal problems , I?m already doing too much.
Thanks for your kindness!

:cheesy: It doesn't take long to start finding queens pretty easily
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