Good sign?

Started by Nock, April 16, 2020, 10:54:26 AM

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Nock

Checked a trap this morning on way to work. There were several scouts in the box. Bad part was they were all dead. Not sure if yesterday or this morning got them. Both days been below freezing. So is it a good sign they were hanging out?  Why would they not go back to there hive?  Is it normal for them to do this until the rest move in?  Thanks

van from Arkansas

Nock, I see bees at the end of life that leave the hive to die in solidarity.  I believe these bees realize they at at the end of the road.  Specifically, I see the bees grasp onto my screen of my front porch.  They just latch on the screen, don?t move and die in place.  Better than dying in the hive inwhich a caretaker would have to carry off the dead bee.  The ultimate last sacrifice to the hive.  Gotta adore those honeybees.   Could go on and on of my admirations.

Hope you catch a swarm, Nock!!!

Van
I have been around bees a long time, since birth.  I am a hobbyist so my answers often reflect this fact.  I concentrate on genetics, raise my own queens by wet graft, nicot, with natural or II breeding.  I do not sell queens, I will give queens  for free but no shipping.

BeeMaster2

Nock,
If the bees found the trap close to sundown, they would likely stay for the night. If it was still cold when you looked in the box, there is a good chance they are not dead. Unless their body temperature dropped below freezing they are still alive. I have picked up bees in cold weather that I thought were dead, held them in my hand and have them wake up.
Hope you catch a swarm.
Jim Altmiller
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

Nock

Quote from: sawdstmakr on April 16, 2020, 02:55:17 PM
Nock,
If the bees found the trap close to sundown, they would likely stay for the night. If it was still cold when you looked in the box, there is a good chance they are not dead. Unless their body temperature dropped below freezing they are still alive. I have picked up bees in cold weather that I thought were dead, held them in my hand and have them wake up.
Hope you catch a swarm.
Jim Altmiller
I?ve been thinking about that today.

Bob Wilson

Is it possible they were visitors from your other nearby hives? I had what I thought were 10-12 scouts hanging around one swarm box for two weeks, but when I checked the box, no colony and no comb inside. Instead, the stragglers built a little burr comb between a few frames. What's up with that?

BeeMaster2

Quote from: Bob Wilson on April 16, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
Is it possible they were visitors from your other nearby hives? I had what I thought were 10-12 scouts hanging around one swarm box for two weeks, but when I checked the box, no colony and no comb inside. Instead, the stragglers built a little burr comb between a few frames. What's up with that?
You probably had a swarm on or near that box and they were left behind. So they just started working in your box.
Jim Altmiller
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin

Bob Wilson

interesting, Jim. I just rebaited it, and there is renewed interest again. 12-15 bees all around it. Did you catch a swarm in that box on the fence post behind your hives since beefest?

Nock

Quote from: Bob Wilson on April 16, 2020, 11:35:22 PM
Is it possible they were visitors from your other nearby hives? I had what I thought were 10-12 scouts hanging around one swarm box for two weeks, but when I checked the box, no colony and no comb inside. Instead, the stragglers built a little burr comb between a few frames. What's up with that?
This trap is about 4 miles from my hives.

BeeMaster2

Quote from: Bob Wilson on April 17, 2020, 08:37:08 AM
interesting, Jim. I just rebaited it, and there is renewed interest again. 12-15 bees all around it. Did you catch a swarm in that box on the fence post behind your hives since beefest?
No. Nothing yet.
Jim Altmiller
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Ben Franklin