Can my bees starve to death with me feeding them?

Started by Charles Wright, April 27, 2022, 04:25:21 PM

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Charles Wright

I've had bees for a year now. Started with two hives. Around September of last year one hive had no eggs, larvae and shotgun pattern brood. The hive eventually died. A friend from my bee club went through them with me and said the last of them starved to death. How does that happen with me feeding them? Thanks.

Oldbeavo

May be the hive went queenless, for what ever reason. No eggs makes me suspicious.
How long between September and reinspection by bee club member?

TheHoneyPump

Quote from: Charles Wright on April 27, 2022, 04:25:21 PM
I've had bees for a year now. Started with two hives. Around September of last year one hive had no eggs, larvae and shotgun pattern brood. The hive eventually died. A friend from my bee club went through them with me and said the last of them starved to death. How does that happen with me feeding them? Thanks.
Just a Fall hive that had an old or sick queen that died in winter or a Fall queenless hive gone laying worker situation. It happens. No they did not starve.  With no new bees being developed the population dwindled to the point that the few bees left eventually died from exposure, they simply got cold and died.
When the lid goes back on, the bees will spend the next 3 days undoing most of what the beekeeper just did to them.

Charles Wright

The reinspection was last week. Thanks for the info.

BeeMaster2

When you find a hive that died of starvation, the bees left in the hive usually all have their heads in cells, trying to get the last bit of food.
Jim Altmiller
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Ben Franklin

Ben Framed

Quote from: BeeMaster2 on April 29, 2022, 06:14:48 PM
When you find a hive that died of starvation, the bees left in the hive usually all have their heads in cells, trying to get the last bit of food.
Jim Altmiller

Yes I agree, if the circumstances are as you describe Beemaster 2 .
In the Spring a year or so ago, I had this very experience with at least two hives.  We live and learn as we go, while hoping along the way we will heed the warnings and good advise given by our experienced friends here.
So; Charles do not be discouraged, it will all come together,,,,,,,,,,

But: considering the following by you Charles and further down, TheHoneyPump deserves tuned in consideration also.

Quote from: TheHoneyPump on April 27, 2022, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: Charles Wright on April 27, 2022, 04:25:21 PM
I've had bees for a year now. Started with two hives. Around September of last year one hive had no eggs, larvae and shotgun pattern brood. The hive eventually died. A friend from my bee club went through them with me and said the last of them starved to death. How does that happen with me feeding them? Thanks.
Just a Fall hive that had an old or sick queen that died in winter or a Fall queenless hive gone laying worker situation. It happens. No they did not starve.  With no new bees being developed the population dwindled to the point that the few bees left eventually died from exposure, they simply got cold and died.

Charles you have been given good mentorship advice by both of our fellow member beekeepers. You will need to evaluate your situation and see which fits your circumstances.


Phillip

Charles Wright

Thanks everyone. This was a hard lesson. I feel terrible. I'm going to be a lot more diligent this year.

Kathyp

QuoteThanks everyone. This was a hard lesson. I feel terrible. I'm going to be a lot more diligent this year.

Don't feel bad.  We lost a hive last year that I had thought was doing great.  Early swarm pick up with a good queen.  I got sidetracked and didn't get into it for a while.  One day I notice that there were not many bees flying and sure enough, we'd lost the queen and the hive had gone down.  s

We have been doing this for years.  I know better than to let a hive go so long without checking.  I felt bad too and there was no excuse. 

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Ben Framed

Quote from: Kathyp on May 03, 2022, 08:03:23 PM
QuoteThanks everyone. This was a hard lesson. I feel terrible. I'm going to be a lot more diligent this year.

Don't feel bad.  We lost a hive last year that I had thought was doing great.  Early swarm pick up with a good queen.  I got sidetracked and didn't get into it for a while.  One day I notice that there were not many bees flying and sure enough, we'd lost the queen and the hive had gone down.  s

We have been doing this for years.  I know better than to let a hive go so long without checking.  I felt bad too and there was no excuse.

It has happened to me also Kathy. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger lol

Michael Bush

If they die with their heads in the cells it just means that they were clustering when they died.  That's how they cluster.  With their heads in the cells.  Bees do starve easily in the spring because once brood rearing starts they are burning through stores at an exponentially growing rate.  They burn a frame of honey and a frame of pollen for every frame of brood they raise.
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