Africanized Honey Bees 'VS' Varroa Destructor & Small Hive Beetles

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Ben Framed

Does anyone know if the 'Africanized Honey Bee', also known as the "Killer Bee",  fares any better than the 'European Honey Bee' in resistance to Small Hive Beetles 'and, 'or',  Varroa Destructor? Thanks!

Phillip

TheHoneyPump

No personal first hand knowledge with AHB together with the named pests.  however AHB probably do fair much better against varroa due to their high proclivity to swarming frequency and much smaller peak colony size. ? ?
When the lid goes back on, the bees will spend the next 3 days undoing most of what the beekeeper just did to them.

Michael Bush

AHB seem to survive better under all circumstances.  Wildness brings a vigor you can't get any other way.  But I don't think there are any less Varroa on them.  They tested them for Hygienic behavior and they were no better than just typical bees.  I would think their aggressiveness would help with SHB but I don't know that and it very well might not since the SHB are capable of imitating bee pheromones and bee behavior to get fed.
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Jim134

Quote from: Ben Framed on October 08, 2022, 09:50:53 PM
Does anyone know if the 'Africanized Honey Bee', also known as the "Killer Bee",  fares any better than the 'European Honey Bee' in resistance to Small Hive Beetles 'and, 'or',  Varroa Destructor? Thanks!

Phillip

      I wonder why you did not.. Include Certified Russian  Queen bees ?   In my opinion they're very readily available in the USA....


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Ben Framed

Quote from: Jim 134 on October 10, 2022, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: Ben Framed on October 08, 2022, 09:50:53 PM
Does anyone know if the 'Africanized Honey Bee', also known as the "Killer Bee",  fares any better than the 'European Honey Bee' in resistance to Small Hive Beetles 'and, 'or',  Varroa Destructor? Thanks!

Phillip

      I wonder why you did not.. Include Certified Russian  Queen bees ?   In my opinion they're very readily available in the USA....


BEE HAPPY  Jim134  😊



Good point Jim. I did not leave them out on purpose. Thanks for the reminder.

Let's add Russians to the equation. I wonder if they fare well against Varroa and Small Hive Beetles in comparison to the others mentioned above?

Phillip 

Michael Bush

I didn't have SHB when I had Russians, but I certainly had Varroa mites.  The Russians could survive huge loads of Varroa mites before they finally died.  Many more than the Italians or Carniolans or Buckfasts could.  I saw no difference for wax moths.  Strong hives of any race seem to do fine in regards to wax moths.
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Bill Murray

All my bees are mutts, but for SHB it seems some hives tolerate them and some hives dont. I try to kill and requeen the ones that dont corral and fight them. As for varroa, Ive never tested an untreated hive that wasnt loaded. Someone further south than me would have to answer the AHB part.

Jim134

"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

Jim134

Just in case you'd like hto know a little bit more about Russian Honeybee.  Russian bees are the only bees .I had about 10 years before I left the USA

https://youtu.be/vqp4INq0Gak

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"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/

Jim134

"Tell me and I'll forget,show me and I may  remember,involve me and I'll understand"
        Chinese Proverb

"The farmer is the only man in our economy who buys everything at retail, sells everything at wholesale, and pays the freight both ways."
John F. Kennedy
Franklin County Beekeepers Association MA. http://www.franklinmabeekeepers.org/